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Air Intakes

Postby IKENTY on Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:35 am

Now I want to ask your opinion and also share my views on different types of intakes.
Stock Intake, Short Ram Intake, Long Ram Intake, ARC Intake, Modified Stock Intake.

I recently changed back to stock intake with drop in K&N Panel filter because the benefits of a Short Ram don't appeal to me. I get too much heat soak from the engine heat and the pipe is often too hot to touch after a long drive and the intake air temp is usually 110 Degrees Fahrenheit. My next move is to remove the resonator box from in front of the left wheel and run flex tube or a 3 inch pipe from behind my fog light up to the bottom of the stock intake box.
The benefits of this setup will be no heat soak due to rubber/ plastic stock intake pipes and better response like short ram intake. Only problem might be rain but that will be settled with with AEM Air Bypass Valve. Plus you still get the deep intake sound.

Sorry for all the Toyota pics but I join this new AE111 Toyota forum http://s15.zetaboards.com/AE111_Forum/index/and this is a hot topic there. Dyno Numbers have proven that the most torque is made with the stock box with panel filter and air induction from behind bumper or long ram cold air intake. ARC intake makes the most power but with drop in torque. 2 Hp loss might not seem like much but when you only get 139hp WHP it is a lot.

Honda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, etc Post your opinions and pics.

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Re: Air Intakes

Postby IKENTY on Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:38 am

I know Adisa have the Long Ram Intake with filter in front the wheel.

Al have the flex pipe next top the number plate with no resonator box and short ram intake. Air come through the flex pipe and it leads just in front the mushroom filter. Good but still sucks hot engine air and it gets heat soak.
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Re: Air Intakes

Postby Yanz aka Stppnrzr on Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:24 am

I saw this with an ITR, the stock intake box produced more power due to the engine being tuned from factory with its stock intake box

they added a filter, power loss
removed the whole intake tube- power loss ( manifold alone )
polish pipe, power loss


they say is the design help with the power

I think thts why u seeing some them jap cars with these intake having a enlarge center in the piping then cme back dwn small and they are not made of a metal so better insulation against heat


These new intake have a similar design to the stock intake tubes

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Re: Air Intakes

Postby IKENTY on Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:56 pm

Yea. The Whale Penis Intake. That is expensive so I will use stock box. If you could find one for $100.00 US I will take it off your hands. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Air Intakes

Postby Mobz_SKNmotorsports on Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:58 am

yea the whale penis must buy intake! lol
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Re: Air Intakes

Postby EPisode71 on Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:47 am

Now what about when it comes to turbo engines? Does it make a significant difference when cold air is consumed by the intake or hot air from the engine? When you factor in that the air "HAS" to pass thru the turbo which is a millian degrees give or take? :?: lol.
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Re: Air Intakes

Postby Yanz aka Stppnrzr on Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:17 pm

yeah man it will help the same way,

air entering the turbo at a lower temp even though it will be heated
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Re: Air Intakes

Postby IKENTY on Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:19 am

Yanz aka Stppnrzr wrote:yeah man it will help the same way,

air entering the turbo at a lower temp even though it will be heated


You are correct. Lower in = lower out. A turbo car will operate better on a cold night than on a hot day because of air temp.
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Re: Air Intakes

Postby Yanz aka Stppnrzr on Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:39 am

Example.

Turbo adds 100 degrees temp to air passing through

Air Intake temp = 80

(intake) 80 + (Turbo) 100 = 180 after entering ( compressed) to intercooler



(intake) 60 + (Turbo) 100 = 160 after entering ( compressed) to intercooler
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Re: Air Intakes

Postby EPisode71 on Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:17 pm

http://www.stealth316.com/2-turbotemp.htm


This help solve the question. As kenty would say work out the math.
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